Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/18/1996 04:04 PM Senate TRD

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     JOINT INTERIM TASK FORCE ON INTERNATIONAL TRADE POLICY                    
                        January 18, 1996                                       
                           4:04 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Steve Rieger, Co-chair                                                
 Representative Beverly Masek, Co-chair                                        
 Representative Alan Austerman                                                 
 Representative Brian Porter                                                   
 Representative Jeannette James                                                
 Representative Irene Nicholia                                                 
 Representative Caren Robinson                                                 
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Representative Pete Kott                                                      
                                                                               
  ALSO IN ATTENDANCE                                                           
                                                                               
 Representative Gail Phillips, Speaker of the House                            
 Representative Jerry Sanders                                                  
 Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                    
                                                                               
  TASK FORCE AGENDA                                                            
                                                                               
  -- ALASKA'S INTERNATIONAL TRADE SUPPORT NETWORK                              
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Ms. 'Pete' Nelson, Chairman                                                   
 World Trade Center Alaska Advisory Board                                      
 421 W. 1st Ave.                                                               
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
                                                                               
 Ms. Robin Zerbel, Director                                                    
 World Trade Center Alaska                                                     
 421 W. 1st Ave.                                                               
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
                                                                               
 Tom Jensen, Chairman                                                          
 Oversight Committee on Private Industry Needs                                 
   Assessment Survey                                                           
 421 W. 1st Ave.                                                               
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
                                                                               
 Tim Lane, International Trade Advisor                                         
                                                                               
 Kevin Krauklis                                                                
 3253 Riverview Drive                                                          
 Fairbanks, AK 99709                                                           
 Ms. Sherry Biggs                                                              
 Kenai Economic Development District                                           
 P.O. Box 3029                                                                 
 Kenai, AK 99611                                                               
                                                                               
 James Kenworthy, Director                                                     
 Alaska Science Technology Foundation                                          
 4500 Diplomacy, Suite 515                                                     
 Anchorage, AK 99508                                                           
                                                                               
 Mark Wilson                                                                   
 1400 W. Benson, #150                                                          
 Anchorage, AK 99503                                                           
                                                                               
 Jim Stevens                                                                   
 3605 Arctic, #2156                                                            
 Anchorage, AK 99503                                                           
                                                                               
 Patrick Burden                                                                
 421 W. 1st Ave., #310                                                         
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
                                                                               
 Ms. Deborah Sedwick, Assistant Commissioner                                   
 Division of Trade & Development                                               
 Department of Commerce & Economic Development                                 
 3601 C St., Suite 798                                                         
 Anchorage, AK 99503                                                           
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 96-1, SIDE A                                                             
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR RIEGER , Co-chair of the Joint Interim Task Force on                 
 International Trade Policy, called the meeting to order at 4:04               
 p.m., and stated the purpose of the meeting was to hear                       
 presentations and testimony regarding international trade and the             
 results of a private industry needs assessment commissioned by the            
 legislature and conducted by the World Trade Center Alaska during             
 the past interim.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 036                                                                    
                                                                               
  'PETE' NELSON , Chairman, World Trade Center Alaska Advisory Board,          
 said it is her responsibility to represent their membership in                
 programs that advance international trade that most directly                  
 benefits their Alaskan businesses.  During her nine-year tenure on            
 the board they've worked with a myriad of programs and on a host of           
 projects to expand Alaska's opportunity in international trade.               
 However, it has become increasingly evident in discussions with               
 their members and with others in the private sector that it was not           
 clear if these programs or initiatives were responsive or                     
 consistent with the current international business efforts of                 
 Alaskans.  What was clear, was that no one had asked a sampling of            
 Alaska's private sector what their needs were regarding                       
 international trade, education assistance, policy or promotion                
 efforts.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Simultaneously, the state of Alaska was initiating a review of                
 fiscal plans to address the declining operating budget.  This year            
 the Alaska Legislature authorized a survey of Alaska's private                
 sector, and the purpose of this project was to identify a state               
 policy that would do more responsibly with less to enhance                    
 international business in Alaska.  This project was supervised by             
 an oversight committee selected by the legislature.                           
                                                                               
 Ms. Nelson said the needs assessment survey should not be                     
 considered an end result, rather, it is a unified voice of Alaskans           
 requesting an action, requesting a response from those who make               
 policy.                                                                       
                                                                               
 [BECAUSE THERE WAS INTEREST EXPRESSED IN THE PRESENTATIONS BY ROBIN           
  ZERBEL, TOM JENSEN AND TIM LANE, THEIR COMPLETE PRESENTATIONS WERE           
 TRANSCRIBED]                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number  110                                                                   
                                                                               
  ROBIN ZERBEL , Director, World Trade Center Alaska:                          
                                                                               
 "On July 10, the Alaska State Legislature contracted with the World           
 Trade Center Alaska to conduct a needs assessment of the Alaska               
 international business community.  To achieve the results of a                
 survey process that would be equitable and the results that would             
 garner substantive data, the legislature requested the appointment            
 of a broad-based oversight committee.  This committee was composed            
 of heads of trade associations throughout the state of Alaska that            
 represented much of Alaska's industry.  Tom Jensen, President of              
 the Alaska State Chamber, represents one of those individuals                 
 serving on the oversight committee at the request of the House and            
 Senate leadership.  Mr. Jensen will be presenting the results of              
 this survey on behalf of the oversight committee. "                           
                                                                               
 "Members of this oversight committee met to review proposed needs             
 assessment questionnaires and the survey process in August.  At               
 that time, the committee reviewed sample assessment questionnaires            
 provided through our consultations with ISER (Institute of Social             
 and Economic Research) and other professional assessment                      
 organizations.  The committee resolved, at that time, the                     
 questionnaire should be open-ended.  The document was revised and             
 again reviewed by the oversight committee.  Committee members                 
 approved the questionnaire you see before you today."                         
                                                                               
 "Although the contract with the legislature stipulated distribution           
 to 600 businesses, it was determined in the oversight committee               
 meetings a larger distribution would be more favorable in assessing           
 the needs.  We therefore increased the distribution to 2,000                  
 Alaskan businesses."                                                          
                                                                               
 "Prior to the study, no academic trade organization or government             
 agency had compiled a comprehensive list of current or potential              
 exporters in Alaska.  Although the export of products can be traced           
 to Alaska origin, it was the growing service sector that was the              
 most difficult to locate.  The oversight committee indicated that             
 only a small percentage of Alaskan companies, then estimated around           
 1,000, had likely ever exported or considered exporting.                      
 Identifying the sample was an arduous task.  The actual mailing               
 list was developed as follows:                                                
                                                                               
 1.  A database of all Alaskan business license holders was                    
 purchased.                                                                    
                                                                               
 2.  Businesses without any Alaskan zip code were deleted from the             
 list, so these were strictly addresses within the state of Alaska.            
                                                                               
 3.  The major industry groups were classified, as dictated by the             
 oversight committee, to the kinds of industry that they wanted to             
 survey.                                                                       
                                                                               
 4.  The final step is the mailing list from the U.S. Commercial               
 Service (1995 version), the World Trade Center Alaska (1994 - 1995            
 version), and the Alaska Office of International Trade (1994                  
 version) were put together.  The oversight committee suggested                
 companies which had previously responded to trade agency mass                 
 mailings would be more likely to respond to an international trade            
 questionnaire than companies randomly selected from the state's               
 business license.  Therefore, these two lists were cross-referenced           
 and, therefore, that's how we came to the results of those who were           
 actually surveyed."                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 175                                                                    
                                                                               
  TOM JENSEN , Chair, Oversight Committee on the Private Industry              
 Needs Assessment Survey:                                                      
                                                                               
 "This group, the oversight committee, was formed at the request of            
 Senate President Drue Pearce and Speaker of the House Gail                    
 Phillips.  The committee consisted of 11 individuals and theY were:           
 Joe Beedle, Juneau Small Business Development Center; Sherry Biggs,           
 Kenai Economic Development District; Steve Borrell, Alaska Miners             
 Association; Chris Gates, the Alaska Forestry Association; David              
 Haugen, The Alliance; Carol Heyman, Anchorage Chamber of Commerce;            
 Chris Mitchell, Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation; Kevin                
 Krauklis, Fairbanks Economic Corporation and Fairbanks Chamber of             
 Commerce; and Dale Wade, Alaska Air Cargo Association -- a good               
 cross section of organizations on the oversight committee.  We were           
 selected as individuals representing the broadest based                       
 constituency of the Alaskan private sector involved in                        
 international business."                                                      
                                                                               
 "We were requested to provide oversight in three major function               
 areas.  First, we provided advice and comments on the assessment              
 process, in general.  Secondly, we provided advice and comments on            
 the private sector survey tool itself.  And lastly, we reviewed the           
 process of this needs assessment from the beginning to the end.  I            
 must say that Alaska has taken its first and most critical step in            
 enhancing the private sector's ability to successfully do business            
 internationally.  How?  What we did is we asked the private sector,           
 a big thing."                                                                 
                                                                               
 "Now, this needs assessment was unprecedented here in Alaska.  A              
 handful of other states have conducted international business needs           
 surveys and those, and other states that have not, were contacted             
 for survey samples.  They were very interested in Alaska's survey             
 process and the resulting changes in policy toward international              
 trade.  Respondents to the survey within Alaska were overwhelmingly           
 appreciative of being solicited to provide their input in this                
 process, and, in fact, that request prompted some individuals to              
 get so enthused that they composed individual letters and went on             
 and on and on.  Of the 2,000 surveys that were mailed out, we had             
 a 13.5 percent response rate and that's not bad.  We received 271             
 completed surveys, many who favorably commented about this                    
 precedent-setting project.  "                                                 
                                                                               
 "Now, the important question:  What is it that the survey tells us?           
 Before you today are the complete results of that survey inclusive            
 of the independent comments and each and every question responded             
 to by those respondents in the survey.  Additionally, it includes             
 a copy of the survey, a list of who responded by the project                  
 completion date, and a breakdown of the industry sectors that were            
 surveyed.  Certainly, you and your staff will have a chance to                
 review it at your own leisure and to see if there are other                   
 questions that we may not answer today that you may want answers              
 for in the future."                                                           
                                                                               
 "However, the reason that I'm really here today is to provide you             
 with the major conclusions of this international business needs               
 survey and to demonstrate, hopefully, how Alaska can do more                  
 responsibly with less.  Now, after studying this document in great            
 detail, some general observations were: information gathered show             
 that 62 percent of the respondents are motivated to export or                 
 consider the export business because this is part of their long-              
 term business development plan and they have some special knowledge           
 of a foreign market opportunity.  We also learned that 66 percent             
 of the respondents gave an international trade lead the same                  
 priority as a domestic lead; it's important to them, they are                 
 really interested.  "                                                         
                                                                               
 "Potential exporters, those who aren't exporting yet but have the             
 idea in their mind, provided these statistics:  55 percent of those           
 potential exporters responded that finding foreign customers and              
 then finding the information on the market for their company's                
 particular product or their company's service is the biggest                  
 obstacle they have.  That's the biggest obstacle and that's what              
 keeps their companies from exporting.  90 percent of potential                
 exporters responded that they never ever use government assistance            
 for international trade.  Now, 25 percent of those potential                  
 exporters would seek a private source for more information in the             
 international trade arena; 22 percent of those potential exporters            
 would use the U.S. Commercial Service; 15 percent would use the               
 state Division of Trade & Development; 13 percent would use the               
 World Trade Center Alaska; 9 percent would use the University of              
 Alaska, including the Alaska Center for International Business; 4             
 percent would use University of Alaska Fairbanks; 4 percent the               
 Alaska State Legislature; and 1 percent would use the University of           
 Alaska Southeast.  "                                                          
                                                                               
 "Now, of the exporters, those folks doing the business                        
 internationally, we gleaned from this document that 86 percent of             
 them use bank lines of credit as their export finance source; 41              
 percent said that they are actively involved in foreign joint                 
 ventures, that's how they get in and that's how they stay in; and             
 56 percent said they have not used governmental assistance for any            
 international trade -- those are the folks that are doing the job;            
 29 percent of those exporters say that they would use private                 
 sources for trade assistance -- they are willing to pay for                   
 private; 43 percent said that they would use private sources to               
 find more information in the international trade world;  23 percent           
 said they would use the World Trade Center; 16 percent would use              
 U.S. Commercial Services; 10 percent would use the Alaska Division            
 of Trade and Development; 6 percent would use University of Alaska            
 Anchorage; and about 1 percent would use SBA."                                
                                                                               
 "Respondents, again, on the exporting side of the house, their                
 sales activity for the last fiscal year says that Japan was first,            
 followed by Russia, Canada, Germany, the Peoples Republic of China,           
 and South Korea.  And those exporting project that by the year 2000           
 the international market activity will be:  Number 1, Russia;                 
 Number 2, Japan; Number 3, Korea; then the Peoples Republic of                
 China, Canada and Germany.  So those are some of the statistics,              
 the numbers, the percentages.  So what does it all mean, what do we           
 consider the key findings, the resulting conclusions?"                        
                                                                               
 "From a global perspective, this is what we consider the key                  
 finding.  The respondents stated clearly that international                   
 business is part of their long-term plan and they are doing or                
 seeking to do business throughout the entire world -- identified              
 countries and regions were surprisingly varied.  For example, they            
 were looking at potential business in Ireland, Israel, the Ukraine,           
 Indonesia, Indiana, Vietnam, Chile, Austria, the Middle East,                 
 Peoples Republic of China, and, of course, Russia.  And the                   
 respondents projected to do business in an even greater extent in             
 a broader variety of countries during the next five years -- they             
 see it expanding and improving.  The conclusion drawn from this               
 information is that financial resources should be redirected to               
 regions or areas where Alaskan businesses are considering doing               
 international trade, as opposed to just the shotgun approach of               
 shooting it everywhere. "                                                     
                                                                               
 "What are some of the obstacles to trade international?  Well, the            
 survey showed that potential as well as experienced exporters                 
 identify that locating market information and foreign customers are           
 their major obstacles to trade -- getting that information.  The              
 survey respondents familiar with the U.S. Commercial Service rate             
 them very highly for their ad hoc services in locating market                 
 information."                                                                 
                                                                               
 "We therefore conclude that foreign market information is available           
 free through the U.S. Commercial Service.  Governmental agencies              
 and organizations, as well as trade organizations and economic                
 development organizations, should all refer individuals inquiring             
 or soliciting information to this service as it was highly rated by           
 the respondents as being the most effective.  "                               
                                                                               
 "We also conclude that the state of Alaska could better support               
 those referrals to the availability of information to the U.S.                
 Commercial Services."                                                         
                                                                               
 "We conclude that Alaska could be better supported to overcome                
 these obstacles by providing a centralized contact point, as                  
 opposed to the many points we have now."                                      
                                                                               
 "Another key finding was that respondents recognize the importance            
 of trade missions and trade shows in finding foreign customers --             
 one of their major problems, it is important to do those things.              
 And the conclusion would be that the state might establish a policy           
 that trade missions and trade show destinations are driven by the             
 private sector needs, as opposed to, possibly, speculation.  This             
 policy could include that funds allocated for any overseas travels            
 by state officials would be considered as a trade mission with                
 private sector participation.  Lastly, the trade missions and/or              
 trade shows should be contracted to an organization or an entity              
 that can provide a consistent, a professional and an apolitical               
 service."                                                                     
                                                                               
 "In the financial arena, the findings indicated the use of regular            
 bank lines of credit to conduct business was documented as the                
 standard -- that's how they do it.  The conclusion might be that we           
 redirect funds from an existing trade promotion, provide assistance           
 or financing through other entities to establish export finance               
 assistance to those people.  We also found that the federal program           
 usage was negligible and state program usage was nonexistent -- it            
 wasn't there.  That leads us to conclude that a review and correct            
 legislation and administration to respond with a newer, more                  
 effective program that meets their needs would be appropriate."               
                                                                               
 "Respondents, especially those who were experienced exporters,                
 documented their high priority need for an access to money.  That             
 leads us to conclude that maybe this export finance unit to the               
 private and the private/public entity working regularly with                  
 international business in the Alaska private sector would be                  
 helpful."                                                                     
                                                                               
 "Now, where do Alaskans go for assistance?  The private sector is             
 using the private sector for international business assistance, not           
 government.  They are using friends, family associates, customers,            
 suppliers, or private consultants.  So we conclude that Alaska's              
 private sector is creating its own private sector for international           
 expertise, as opposed to relying upon government entities."                   
                                                                               
 "A large percentage of the respondents were unaware that the                  
 agencies indicated in the survey had services available.  The                 
 conclusion there might be that the general fund dollars have been             
 used ineffectively in communicating or in providing services to               
 Alaskan businesses."                                                          
                                                                               
 "Respondents also consistently rated the U.S. Commercial Service              
 the highest for its effectiveness in ad hoc services.  The World              
 Trade Center rated the highest from exporters and the Division of             
 Trade & Development, formerly the Office of International Trade,              
 was rated the highest by potential exporters.  Other programs and             
 services received negligible responses.  From that we conclude that           
 the general fund dollars supporting trade policy, finance                     
 assistance and education could be streamlined.  Maybe a more user             
 friendly program that's flexible and responsive to the changing               
 private sector is the service most wanted by our Alaskan firms                
 looking at international trade."                                              
                                                                               
 "The respondents were very frustrated with the number of programs             
 and services, the conclusion there being a centralized contact                
 point that has credibility with the private sector has possibly the           
 best chance of serving effectively the private sector."                       
                                                                               
 "We believe that this survey and its results are good news, believe           
 it or not, for government and for business.  The reason for that is           
 because in this time of fiscal planning, to provide data for                  
 targeting international trade with a rifle, as opposed to a                   
 shotgun, therefore allows us to be more responsible with less."               
 "That concludes my presentation."                                             
                                                                               
 Number 387                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR RIEGER  said in the presentation three things were outlined          
 generally:  information, diplomacy function, and financing.  He               
 said he has always had a preordained conclusion that only the first           
 two were things that the state might have a legitimate role in, and           
 he asked if there really is a unique need for financing that can't            
 be met by the private sector in the financing side, or if there are           
 other things beyond those basic three categories that he missed in            
 the remarks.   ROBIN ZERBEL  responded that the survey didn't address         
 what those particular needs are that are specific in finance.                 
 However, she added that from the World Trade Center's perspective             
 and her personal experience, they don't really know what these                
 companies want and the companies don't really know what they want -           
 - everybody wants money, but they don't know how to get it.  If               
 there was a person identified to be working in this arena, then               
 they could call that person and ask what the exporters, importers             
 and investment people want for finance, and until that is done,               
 they are never going to be able to answer that question.  She also            
 said that access to capital doesn't necessarily mean the state                
 would have to finance anything.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 425                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  asked if anyone was using the Alaska                   
 Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA) for export.               
  ROBIN ZERBEL  answered that AIDEA has funded a number of projects            
 that are involved in export, but they are here and they have not              
 had any takers on their export financing program.  She added that             
 if no one is using it, it seems to her that it is not working and             
 that it needs to be fixed.  Also, she is not sure that Alaska                 
 warrants a financing program, because there are a lot of other                
 answers out there for that.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 443                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS  asked if on the centralized entity             
 concept there was any feedback on how that centralized entity                 
 should look, where it should be located, etc.   ROBIN ZERBEL  said            
 the respondents to the questionnaire offered all kinds of                     
 suggestions, but they all called for a central location.  They                
 don't really care where it is physically, but she believes there is           
 a call here for them to ask for consistency, an entity that has               
 credibility, and a unit that is working together.  She commented              
 that she would like to see it at the World Trade Center.                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS  asked if the conclusions in the report         
 will tell the reader very specifically and very clearly that the              
 services that we provide as a state today are not providing the               
 service that the client needs.   ROBIN ZERBEL  answered that some of          
 the programs that were reviewed are not official state agencies or            
 organizations, but the money that's gone into programs and                    
 initiative has not been effectively used to respond to the private            
 sector.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 530                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MASEK , Co-chair of the task force, asked how many of         
 the 271 people that responded to the survey knew of the state                 
 agencies and the services available to help them in getting their             
 business and trade started.   TOM JENSEN  responded that a number of          
 the people responding to the survey didn't know of the services               
 provided, or they were not comfortable with the services that were            
 provided, or they didn't feel the services that were provided is              
 what they needed so they went to the private sector.  He added that           
 over 70 percent aren't interested in government assistance at all,            
 which tells you that the government program isn't doing the job.              
 He reiterated that the theme that came through in the survey was              
 centralization, to listen to the private sector as to where they              
 are going and what markets they are after, and then target the                
 assistance in those regions and in those markets as opposed to                
 trying to be everything to everybody.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 561                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  expressed her great interest in international               
 trade, but she wonders how many Alaskans really know that Alaska              
 has an offices in Taiwan, Korea, Japan and how many use those                 
 offices to promote their particular business or to have the                   
 particular business from those three countries to join forces with            
 perhaps somebody in Alaska.  She asked if when we have a presence             
 in a country, is that a more positive versus closing down those               
 three offices and not having any presence.   ROBIN ZERBEL  replied            
 that only one respondent commented to keep those offices open,                
 although that question was not asked.  She noted a great portion of           
 the survey represented the service sector, and the survey                     
 demonstrates the service sector is going all over the world.                  
                                                                               
 Number 623                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  asked if as a member organization and in               
 serving its membership, the World Trade Center receives a lot of              
 contributions by the members who bring to this organization their             
 knowledge and share it with other members.  She also asked if that            
 possibly is the kind of an organization that might have a better              
 ability to do those kinds of things because of this growing                   
 information this is gleaned from the people who are actually doing            
 the exporting or importing.   ROBIN ZERBEL  responded that she                
 believes there is a real benefit because companies are paying a               
 matching fee for their services, and that means that the state                
 doesn't have to subsidize the whole portion for assistance.  It               
 provides a lot of opportunity for people to use each other as the             
 experts and use the private sector.  Another benefit is that an               
 organization like theirs has to respond to its membership,                    
 therefore, when markets change, there has to be a system in place             
 to be able to respond rapidly to those changes.                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  asked Mr. Jensen if could expand on what he            
 would visualize to be the state's role in any kind of trade show.             
  TOM JENSEN  suggested that private enterprise could represent itself         
 at these trade shows, but he believes the state has a                         
 responsibility as a state to represent that industry in a whole, so           
 therefore, the state would be a participant in assisting in funding           
 that.                                                                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR RIEGER  thanked Ms. Zerbel and Mr. Jensen for their                  
 presentations and then stated the task force would next hear from             
 participants waiting to testify over the Legislative Teleconference           
 Network.  The first to testify was Tim Lane, who was contracted by            
 the legislature to do an analysis of state agencies and federal               
 agencies involved in international trade.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 684                                                                    
                                                                               
  TIM LANE , International Trade Advisor, testifying from North                
 Carolina:                                                                     
                                                                               
 "In October, at the request of the legislature and in conjunction             
 with the legislature's review of the state international policy, I            
 conducted a comprehensive analysis of Alaska's trade assistance               
 network.  The analysis incorporated a number of elements, which               
 I'll cover briefly as an introduction and leave as a basis for any            
 future questions that you might have regarding the integration of             
 the private sector survey or anything that I would hope to tell               
 you."                                                                         
                                                                               
 "The primary three areas that we brought up were: (1) policy: the             
 appropriate role of state government in international trade and               
 affairs; (2) the structure - what is the most effective way to                
 structure an international trade assistance network; and (3) to               
 develop a fiscally sound trade budget to compliment a structurally            
 sound international trade support system.  In the budget element,             
 in particular, it wasn't so much an attempt to set a certain number           
 to cut, but, rather, to identify areas where the budget could be              
 reduced, where organizational activities could be replaced by                 
 private or federal level, or where activities were no longer                  
 consistent with the changing realities of a global marketplace.  "            
                                                                               
 "To intensify the scope of these issues among the organizations               
 that we chose, each organization was evaluated according to its               
 activity in three specific areas:  (1) export assistance -- that is           
 the services that the state currently provides to companies seeking           
 to export their products and services to foreign markets; (2)                 
 foreign investment promotion and protocol activity which was                  
 bunched together -- while both export assistance and foreign                  
 investment promotion are highly international in nature, the                  
 approach to effectively promote both of them is highly distinct,              
 and naturally we felt they were separated; and (3) international              
 education -- the focus of this was primary trade organizations and            
 the international education services they provide to companies and            
 the public at large. "                                                        
                                                                               
 "Organizations were specifically examined, among other points, to             
 identify areas of activity duplication, obsolete activities,                  
 service specialization -- that is the extent to which the                     
 organization specializes and perhaps excels in a certain capacity.            
 The inner organizational cooperation -- that is the extent to which           
 they cooperate with other trade groups in the state to promote                
 Alaskan trade; and finally and most importantly for purposes of               
 this analysis was the overall extent, which were relevant within              
 the context of achieving a global marketplace.  A number of these             
 programs were set up 10 years ago or even longer and some of the              
 activities are no longer necessarily consistent with the changing             
 global marketplace.  As a result, the primary analysis focused on             
 that in great detail."                                                        
                                                                               
 "That's the primary background on the methodology and the points              
 which we reviewed.  If you have specific questions, I'm open to               
 answer any of those."                                                         
                                                                               
 TAPE 96-1, SIDE B                                                             
 Number 740                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR RIEGER  thanked Mr. Lane and stated that his international           
 support network restructuring recommendations were just being                 
 presented to the task force and it was not his intention to ask the           
 task force to take any action or position on them until they have             
 had the opportunity to fully review the document.                             
                                                                               
 Number 755                                                                    
                                                                               
  KEVIN KRAUKLIS , a Fairbanks businessman and member of the Project           
 Oversight Committee, said until this past summer he was president             
 of Flowline Alaska, a Fairbanks company specializing in pipe                  
 insulation.  In 1993, Flowline Alaska and the City of Moscow, as              
 50/50 partners, formed a new Russian company to operate a pipe                
 insulation plant in Moscow, which is still operating and doing                
 well.  Valuable Alaska resources used for setting up this business            
 in Russia were the Alaska State Chamber of Commerce, U.S. Foreign             
 Commercial Service, State Office of International Trade and the               
 World Trade Center Alaska.  He also said that if it were not for              
 organized trade missions, Flowline Alaska would not be doing                  
 business in Russia.                                                           
                                                                               
 While he strongly prefers private sector initiative over public               
 sector, Mr. Krauklis believes there is a very valuable role that              
 the state government can play in helping Alaskans find the right              
 opportunities in Russia.  State government participants or                    
 organizing a trade mission to Russia can open a lot of doors that             
 a private Alaskan cannot.  One of the main keys to success of these           
 trade missions, though, is a high level of private sector financial           
 contribution and commitment to the organizing group's expenses.               
                                                                               
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  SENATOR RIEGER  asked if the state's role in trade missions is that          
 of being along to add credibility to the people who are on the                
 trade mission, or is it in organizing it in the first place, or               
 both.   MR. KRAUKLIS  replied he thinks it is in the sanctioning, of          
 being part of the group.  A government representative from the                
 state of Alaska can open up a lot of doors over there.                        
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE MASEK  asked what can be done to strengthen and               
 enhance the private sector's business and trade policies.   MR.               
 KRAUKLIS  suggested consolidating some of the organizations that are          
 involved in international trade because one-stop shopping would be            
 very helpful.  He also suggested there is a need to have the World            
 Trade Center and the Division of Trade Development work on                    
 developing the trade missions and trade shows for Alaskan                     
 businesses to participate in.  He added that he thinks the results            
 of the survey and the recommendations that came out of the survey             
 are pretty much on target.                                                    
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  asked Mr. Krauklis where he went to determine         
 the "do's and don'ts"  when trying to establish a business                    
 relationship with Russia.   MR. KRAUKLIS  said that was another               
 benefit of a trade mission.  Just by going on a trade mission and             
 watching the experienced people who are part of the trade missions,           
 he was able to pick up many of the do's and don'ts.                           
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  commented that he agrees with Mr. Krauklis         
 that the state has to be the "door opener" and the lead in carrying           
 the message of Alaska's trade to these other countries.                       
                                                                               
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  SHERRY BIGGS , Kenai Economic Development District, ARDOR for the            
 Kenai Peninsula Borough, related that since 1990 they have been               
 working with Russia and Japan in establishing sister city                     
 relationships.  They have learned that foreign governments look to            
 work with a regional or local agency.  The assistance they have               
 received from the Division of Trade Development, in both the Tokyo            
 office and the Anchorage office, has been instrumental in the                 
 success of their establishing a sister city relationship with a               
 city in Japan.  There are now commercial wholesale representatives            
 in Japan who are ready to purchase fish directly from Kenai                   
 businesses.  She said they believe it is their role to open the               
 doors and establish the rapport and set that level of credibility             
 so that private business can then step in.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 078                                                                    
                                                                               
  JAMES KENWORTHY , Director, Alaska Science Technology Foundation,            
 Anchorage, said satistics show that about one in seven jobs in                
 Alaska is in the traded goods sector versus one in three                      
 nationally.  He said the state can change its economic base over              
 time.  The state has to organize and justify its activities in                
 terms of what expands the trade goods sector of its base -- that is           
 what goods or services Alaska has to sell to the world.  To do                
 that, he suggested it is necessary to improve the competitiveness             
 of existing firms and increase the start-up firms and the rate by             
 which they can succeed.  He noted all states and regions have done            
 much better by trying to grow their own economy rather than                   
 creating incentives to attract outside investors to the state.  The           
 ingredients of growing businesses are nothing more than technology,           
 capital and labor.                                                            
                                                                               
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  MARK WILSON,  an Anchorage businessman, said, in general, his                
 experience has been that beginning with the state functions,                  
 activities and services, which he has used extensively, he has                
 found that his experience with the international trade offices in             
 Japan and Korea has been very keen.  He has found the staff to be             
 very helpful and, in many cases, have provided the services which             
 he specifically needed, largely the facilitation of his efforts to            
 make contact.  They have been able to facilitate his ability to               
 network with other exporters throughout the export/import market of           
 Alaska.  They have helped him participate in trade shows, many of             
 which he could not have participated in individually, but he was              
 able to participate by being an associate member with other                   
 businesses in Alaska.  These trade shows were completely and                  
 exclusively supported by the Office of International Trade.  He               
 noted that he has not availed himself of the other agencies in the            
 private sector, primarily because of cost, or he has found that he            
 was probably more experienced at doing what they offered to do for            
 him.  He added that the World Trade Center Alaska and the U.S.                
 Commercial Service have also been great sources for his company.              
 Number 252                                                                    
                                                                               
  JIM STEVENS , owner of a consulting firm in Anchorage that                   
 specializes in rural tourism development and marketing, stated his            
 has used both the services of the Office of International Trade and           
 the World Trade Center.  In 1991, the Office of International Trade           
 introduced him to the Korean market for tourism, and without their            
 assistance, he would not have been able to generate the volume of             
 business that he accumulated over the years.  They were                       
 instrumental not only in introducing him to the markets, but                  
 supporting his efforts in developing those markets as well.  No               
 other agency, state or federal, has stood beside him like the                 
 Office of International Trade did.                                            
                                                                               
 Mr. Stevens also spoke to the need to reestablish an international            
 trade office in Taiwan where other states with even less trade                
 relationships than Alaska have a presence.  An office in the                  
 Pacific Rim countries is necessary to understand the culture and in           
 that culture the importance of face is fundamental.  He said he               
 sees no real benefit to cutting any of other state's efforts in the           
 Pacific Rim countries, in fact, if anything, the funding should be            
 increased.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 317                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS  asked Mr. Stevens his thoughts on              
 centralizing the function for all of the world trade and                      
 international trade agencies.   MR. STEVENS  replied that it would            
 probably work good in Alaska, but he didn't think it would work               
 overseas because of the variations in cultures.                               
                                                                               
 Number 330                                                                    
                                                                               
  PATRICK BURDEN  of Northern Economics in Anchorage, spoke to the             
 need for some sort of financing center in the state for                       
 international business.  He is often contacted by companies and               
 organizations in Anchorage about financing, but often he can't help           
 them because they are small companies or they are new companies and           
 they can't afford what his company charges.  Most of his work is              
 for the government entities, for the large corporations.  He would            
 like to help the smaller companies, but what they need is an                  
 inexpensive source or resource of information and guidance on                 
 getting financing for exports.  He pointed out that the program the           
 state of Washington has, perhaps with some modification, could be             
 used as an model for establishing a program in Alaska.  He                    
 suggested that such a center should be placed within an existing              
 agency.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 375                                                                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  asked what function or capability the                 
 financing agency he described would have that AIDEA now doesn't do            
 or have.   MR. BURDEN  answered that he thinks AIDEA has the                  
 authority, but he is not sure that they are really acting in that             
 role, and, if they are, maybe the public isn't aware of their role            
 in international finance.  He also acknowledged that he wasn't                
 specifically recommending that it would be government financing               
 versus private financing.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 405                                                                    
                                                                               
  DEBORAH SEDWICK , Assistant Commissioner, Division of Trade &                
 Development, Department of Commerce & Economic Development,                   
 testifying from Anchorage, stated their office has been eagerly               
 awaiting the results of the survey, and that they look forward to             
 seeing the results, as well as the recommendations.  She expressed            
 their willingness to work with the legislature, the administration            
 and the private sector to do a better job with less.                          
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE MASEK , in her closing comments, expressed her                
 appreciation for all of the work that's been done so far and the              
 task force's  willingness to work with all of the people involved             
 in trade in looking for better ways to ensure that Alaska is going            
 to have a stronger and easier process for people wanting to get               
 involved in trade.                                                            
                                                                               
  SENATOR RIEGER , in his closing remarks, said the task force would           
 welcome written testimony to accompany what had been testified to             
 during the meeting, as well as written comments from anyone in the            
 private sector who did not testify.  He added that it is not clear            
 yet what the format will be for the next meeting and how the task             
 force is going to proceed, but that it is the intention of the co-            
 chairs to schedule another meeting no later than the end of                   
 February.                                                                     
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  commented that it is interesting that many of         
 the comments in the survey are indicative of the perception that              
 there is need for a coordination, continuity and combining other              
 efforts, and the fact that this was a combined Senate and House               
 meeting meets that need so that people don't have to come in and              
 give identical presentations to separate committees.                          
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS  commented on the importance of having face           
 to face contact with people of other cultures several times before            
 being able to do business with them., as well as the important part           
 that government plays in these negotiations.                                  
                                                                               
  CO-CHAIR RIEGER  adjourned the meeting at 5:45 p.m.                          
                                                                               

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